Next league, please nerf Abyss belts

As the topic says, please change the abyss belts next league.

the concept is really cool, and I like gems, but they're just flat out better in everyway than the other belts, even BEFORE you start to get truly good gems.


A belt that can roll 6 mods plus also have a slot for gems that have stats that are better than what you can get on a normal belt (+Life increased life?) is just asinine. Like, I like items being useful, but when ONE single type is just plain straight better than the other options it sucks the fun out of an ARPG, y'know? Alot of the fun is the lottery feel of checking that item that fell to see if its an upgrade, and when only one item can do that, well...



Make the belts drop corrupted with only 2-3 mods max plus their slot.

Stygian Vises are League specific. They end when abyss ends.

Though I do have some iLvl 75+ in my stash for Standard characters.

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mtlhed667 a écrit :

Stygian Vises are League specific. They end when abyss ends.

Though I do have some iLvl 75+ in my stash for Standard characters.

They're probably going to keep abysses in the next league as a random possibility for maps in the same way that essences appear. So stygians will still probably keep appearing. They can keep the current stygians OP just like legacy items in the past don't change, but for future leagues with abysses the future stygians need to be brought down in power.

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aleksandor a écrit :

They're probably going to keep abysses in the next league as a random possibility for maps in the same way that essences appear. So stygians will still probably keep appearing. They can keep the current stygians OP just like legacy items in the past don't change, but for future leagues with abysses the future stygians need to be brought down in power.

One question. How does it matter?
Poe is single player game, nobody can invade your realm kicking you out from maps and steal your items. Play this game whatever way you want. Don't like stygian belts? Don't use them, simply as that.
Stop trying to force nerfs that will only make some people unhappy. Even if i don't like abyss league at all i still find this belts very interesting. Finally it's no longer "HH for every build". Now there is a reason to use different belt.

idk harbinger didnt stay

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aleksandor a écrit :

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mtlhed667 a écrit :

Stygian Vises are League specific. They end when abyss ends.

Though I do have some iLvl 75+ in my stash for Standard characters.

They're probably going to keep abysses in the next league as a random possibility for maps in the same way that essences appear. So stygians will still probably keep appearing. They can keep the current stygians OP just like legacy items in the past don't change, but for future leagues with abysses the future stygians need to be brought down in power.

They usually don't do that the very next league. And that is if they even keep it. Unlikely imo.

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karoollll2534 a écrit :

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aleksandor a écrit :

They're probably going to keep abysses in the next league as a random possibility for maps in the same way that essences appear. So stygians will still probably keep appearing. They can keep the current stygians OP just like legacy items in the past don't change, but for future leagues with abysses the future stygians need to be brought down in power.

One question. How does it matter?

GGG balances around the assumption that players are the absolute most powerful combination of items available-- if a single Item is overwhelmingly more powerful than the other items, they're going to assume that the player has that item when they make their balance for the game.

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aleksandor a écrit :

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karoollll2534 a écrit :

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aleksandor a écrit :

They're probably going to keep abysses in the next league as a random possibility for maps in the same way that essences appear. So stygians will still probably keep appearing. They can keep the current stygians OP just like legacy items in the past don't change, but for future leagues with abysses the future stygians need to be brought down in power.

One question. How does it matter?

GGG balances around the assumption that players are the absolute most powerful combination of items available-- if a single Item is overwhelmingly more powerful than the other items, they're going to assume that the player has that item when they make their balance for the game.

No they don't. At all. If they did, we wouldn't be 1 shotting everything in T16 maps and killing Guardiands/Shaper in 3 seconds. It's very easy to overgear content in PoE.

I highly doubt Stygian and Abyss jewels are staying in the game, they not only gave crazy power creep, they significantly reduced diversity. No diversity = not staying in game.

How would you suggest nerfing them without removing the socket which defines them?

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Deliverme a écrit :

How would you suggest nerfing them without removing the socket which defines them?

1\2 effectiveness of socketed jewels I guess?