Mindspiral or Mind of the Council MoM?

Current spending my very limited time with an MoM templar, 40% of damage to mana, but with only 3k health it's not a very tough templar for sure.
I'm thinking of maybe, under the premise that I find one, replace the chest with a Lightning Rod and the Helmet with Mindspiral, thereby soaking an additional 9% physical damage with mana.

I'm not actually sure if that's worth it over just getting a bit more life on equip, though.

Any opinions?

More HP. I like MoM a lot, but imo you can't treat it like a pure HP buffer. Treat it like a secondary defense, such as armour, block, evasion, etc. and stack as much HP as you normally would. You'll likely find it works a lot better for you if you have a reasonable HP pool to support it. :)

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Current spending my very limited time with an MoM templar, 40% of damage to mana, but with only 3k health it's not a very tough templar for sure.
I'm thinking of maybe, under the premise that I find one, replace the chest with a Lightning Rod and the Helmet with Mindspiral, thereby soaking an additional 9% physical damage with mana.

I'm not actually sure if that's worth it over just getting a bit more life on equip, though.

Any opinions?

Mindspiral is not a MoM unique. I just don't see how it could be good. And yes, I am keeping in mind that up to 10% of damage taken is added as mana, basically negating 10% of damage going to mana. But there are a few things you have to consider and I have to make sure you're considering:

1. You can run hybrid flasks with faster or even instant recovery. This restores life and mana, effectively removing the benefit of Mindspiral.

2. You cannot leech mana at all. Alone this hurts a MoM build considerably because it's like a Blood Magic build that doesn't use life leech to go in tandem with their life gain on hit. Now tie in the instant recovery flasks and leech, and your mana will always be full or near full.

So that leaves Mind of the Council, and I only like that 20-30% increased maximum mana. But I'd still take a helmet with life, resistances, and other benefits over it. I mean, 20% chance to be shocked? 30% of lightning damage on top of MoM's 30% global damage is sent to mana before life? I'd be out of mana before life goes below 80% whenever lightning damage comes up.

if you want to use mana as a life buffer you HAVE to use %damage taken gained as mana stat. you need as much of it as you have MoM

otherwise you WILL eventually run into OOM - loosing your buffer AND ability to cast.

between these two helms, mind of the council is better.
you can treat mind spiral's 10% mana gain at 40% mom as 25% more mana, while mind of the council gives 30% increased mana which usually will be less than "25% more", but in addition it gives 3% mana recovery per shocked mob, shock chance and extra mom towards lightning damage.

it is possible to get a lot, i mean a lot of mana with grandspectum jewels and go full mom :) (in standard it's possible to get 95% mom towards lightning damage:)), but is it worth it, i don't know.

ohh, and don't forget there is boot enchant which gives 1%-2% mana regeneration which adds up to base mana regeneration (which is 1.75%) resulting in doubled mana regen, very useful for mom builds.

Thanks for all the opinions so far!
I didn't expect that many, that fast.

As a little background, I'm using Grand Spectrum Jewels and Pledge of Hands, and I calculated I could comfortably reach 10k mana, regenerating 1k+ per second with a boot enchant.
I'm currently above 5k, with ~30% reserved, but I've switched to using armour spectrums now as the gained armour helps my health last longer - Or so I hope. I already get 25% of mana as ES, where MoM doesn't help.

But you're probably right that Mindspiral isn't a longterm choice.