Corpse Explosion Strongboxes need a rework

Im salty. Just lost a high level (85, its high for me!) PHC to a Corpse explosion strongbox. This character was and Essence drain character.

How it went down:

1. Oh hey a strongbox

2. ID'ed the strongbox

3. saw corpse explode affix/suffix w.e it is

4. Noticed there were a lot of bodies around the chest already

5. Triggered strongbox

6. Whirling blades to an area clear of corpses and off screened the entire pack

7. Counted (out loud) to 5 after i heard no movement/enemy sounds

8. Walked closer so that I could see if the strongbox opened.

9. stongbox barely shows up in the corner of my monitor

10. strongbox targets closest corpse to me, as soon as the first pixel of the strongbox shows up on my monitor, chaining to the other 5-15 corpses i thought were far enough away. Killing me

This atleast the 10th HC character I have lost to trying to be careful with a corpse explosion strongbox.

**How to fix:**

1. Strongbox should have a countdown to corpse explosion chain
2. Corpse Explosion chain should start at the closest corpse to the strongbox (not player)
3. Both 1. and 2. should occur whether my character shares the screen with the box or not

No other strongbox damage mechanic has a character targeting mechanism.

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crohnsy a écrit :

7. Counted (out loud) to 5 after i heard no movement/enemy sounds

There is no countdown on the corpse explosion, it will trigger if you're within melee range of a corpse, which also has to be within the vicinity of the strongbox.

Learn the mechanics before you complain about them ;-).

You can carry around a Vaal Detonate Dead for such Strongboxes and bait the explosion by killing a single monster.

It does need a rework.

It's sloppy and poorly presented.

There are many possible visual or audio details GGG could add to improve the encounter:
- louder sound when DD activates
- sound difference before/after DD triggers (combat music change, danger music, ticking).
- visual difference before/after DD triggers (ripples emanating from the box that speed up as it gets closer to triggering, pulsating/vibrating box)
- affix list difference before/after DD triggers (text color/size/style change in the box affix list, i.e. detonates corpses could be red until it triggers or disappear after it triggers).
- map difference before/after DD triggers
- larger view distance or reduced trigger range so you can see the box affix list without being in lethal range

Without even one of such details, detonate dead strongbox seems poorly polished, like it's a beta or alpha feature.

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crohnsy a écrit :

Im salty. Just lost a high level (85, its high for me!) PHC to a Corpse explosion strongbox. This character was and Essence drain character.

How it went down:

1. Oh hey a strongbox

2. ID'ed the strongbox

3. saw corpse explode affix/suffix w.e it is

4. Noticed there were a lot of bodies around the chest already

5. Triggered strongbox

6. Whirling blades to an area clear of corpses and off screened the entire pack

7. Counted (out loud) to 5 after i heard no movement/enemy sounds

8. Walked closer so that I could see if the strongbox opened.

9. stongbox barely shows up in the corner of my monitor

10. strongbox targets closest corpse to me, as soon as the first pixel of the strongbox shows up on my monitor, chaining to the other 5-15 corpses i thought were far enough away. Killing me

This atleast the 10th HC character I have lost to trying to be careful with a corpse explosion strongbox.

**How to fix:**

1. Strongbox should have a countdown to corpse explosion chain
2. Corpse Explosion chain should start at the closest corpse to the strongbox (not player)
3. Both 1. and 2. should occur whether my character shares the screen with the box or not

No other strongbox damage mechanic has a character targeting mechanism.

Sorry but... Ten characters in HC killed for the same reason?... Really?... Don't play HC, you're no good for that XD

The human being is the only animal stupid enough to stumble many times with the same stone without finding the solution.

Only time I died to this was when I hit a lag spike and all the corpses exploded before my Blink Arrow procc'd.

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Vhlad a écrit :

It does need a rework.

It's sloppy and poorly presented.

There are many possible visual or audio details GGG could add to improve the encounter:
- louder sound when DD activates
- sound difference before/after DD triggers (combat music change, danger music, ticking).
- visual difference before/after DD triggers (ripples emanating from the box that speed up as it gets closer to triggering, pulsating/vibrating box)
- affix list difference before/after DD triggers (text color/size/style change in the box affix list, i.e. detonates corpses could be red until it triggers or disappear after it triggers).
- map difference before/after DD triggers
- larger view distance or reduced trigger range so you can see the box affix list without being in lethal range

Without even one of such details, detonate dead strongbox seems poorly polished, like it's a beta or alpha feature.

This almost looks like a troll-post to me, I hope it is.

But hey, I'll bite, your first four suggestions are pointless, because Detonate Dead triggers, if your character can see the Strongbox AND is within melee range of a corpse, what more do you need to know ?

Map difference after / before it triggers ?
Well, before: a lot of corpses lyring around it (potentially) - after: a lot of exploded corpses - shocking, I know.

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Vhlad a écrit :

- larger view distance or reduced trigger range so you can see the box affix list without being in lethal range"

I don't even ... identify the Strongbox, take a good look at the properties and open it afterwards ?

^ You have really low standards for game quality/polish if you think the current implementation is good enough.

"Detonates nearby corpses" is a poor description, since "nearby" isn't precisely defined and in some cases means radius 6, 30, or 70. In the DD strongbox case "nearby" means the entire length of a standard aspect ratio screen distance, maybe more, since it's a vaal detonate dead chain reaction.

The detonation trigger is variable. It doesn't detonate the instant you're within line of sight and beside a corpse. There's a delay before it "arms".

If you're far enough away for long enough, the box opens. The problem is you don't know if it opened, because the visual/audio feedback is very poor. That's where the encounter needs polish.

The presence or absence of exploded corpses is not an appropriate visual indicator. Some monsters and character builds create exploded corpses. And if you want to approach the strongbox to check for exploded corpses, the view distance is not great enough for you to do that safely (and I'm not even sure if exploded corpses are there if the box fizzles and opens after you've been far enough away for long enough). There's too much uncertainty as a result of poor visual/audio feedback, unless you use extreme widescreen (i.e. stretching PoE across 3 monitors lets you see the box outside of threat range).

Yes, this is something an experienced player can easily work around. That's no excuse for such a poor implementation.

carry a flesh offering or bone offering in your weapon swap.

you've got six slots to work with buddy... give one of em up. you don't need to be leveling 2 enlightens at the same time.

really... 10 characters???

you obviously haven't stumbled upon the greatest class yet: Necromancer

The human being is the only animal stupid enough to stumble many times with the same stone without finding the solution.

wait what, are you [Removed by Support] moron to think you are something special, like you are a fuckin human like every others here, stfu and grow up if someone have problem with that fuck mechanic might because a lot of other ARE. and he is right those fuckin strongshit are just badly fuckin designed, for too long i've said nothing because yea i find them cool, but i was so shitly geared it was normal to die but now, doing end game content.. well barely tho im way much better than when i played when IT WAS FUCKIN BETA. there was no way to grind to 90 without doing 3287940238974329 same stupid map. a lot improved, but THIS... it still fuckin alpha like someone else said, it need MORE VISUAL more DELAY, on that fuckin shit corpse explosion, map tier 6(lvl73) and my 5.3k hp pool full resist got fuckin melted in that pile of retarded corpse that instantly exploded under me.... just fuckin fix that moron design shit GGG