should +1 specter be a rare mod for wands

Seems like an obvious mod to include since we already get zombies and skeles on other gear pieces .

why are specters always given special negative treatment for everything?


I cant be the only one a little annoyed that half the specters one can get in the game are tied to leveling uniques .... what happened to uniques being good but well rolled rares are better?

Yeah, but you know, spectres are the most powerful and versatile summons you can have so their number must be limited. GGG chose to do it with uniques that are either very crappy or even have a drawback. Bones of Ullr have low move speed, Mortis is very rare and reduces minion life, Decree requires both hands and Midnight Bargain reserves you life.

Other than that, those items have practically no other mods to speak of and are a serious hit to your character personal stats when all of them are used together. I mean, seriously, if you had a +1 spectre rare wand or staff would you ever use Bargain or Decree? Yeah, not in a million, you can have all sorts of useful things on a rare, mana, mana regen, cast speed, resists...

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raics a écrit :

Yeah, but you know, spectres are the most powerful and versatile summons you can have so their number must be limited. GGG chose to do it with uniques that are either very crappy or even have a drawback. Bones of Ullr have low move speed, Mortis is very rare and reduces minion life, Decree requires both hands and Midnight Bargain reserves you life.

Other than that, those items have practically no other mods to speak of and are a serious hit to your character personal stats when all of them are used together. I mean, seriously, if you had a +1 spectre rare wand or staff would you ever use Bargain or Decree? Yeah, not in a million, you can have all sorts of useful things on a rare, mana, mana regen, cast speed, resists...

queens decree is a leveling unique with an item level in the 20s , if i was using it in my 80s something is wrong.


midnight is ostensibly a low life wand and carries 3 minion mods other than + specter , it has 4 minion mods in total , how is 1 specter , 1 minion mod going to some how trump 4 minion mods?

and it is level 40


bones are an ever worse offender


how many builds do you know that use 3 low level items as BIS? most builds tend to have maybe 1 and 2 is usually part of extra ordinary circumstances . even then there are rares that exist to trump that 2nd unique item.

sure you have you shatter chuck builds that use very specific stats only found onf very specific uniques , but by in large having this many uniques governing one mod is ... rare



there are no options here. you know what i use on my specter build? I use life sprig that is how fucked the system is.

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Saltychipmunk a écrit :

midnight is ostensibly a low life wand and carries 3 minion mods other than + specter , it has 4 minion mods in total , how is 1 specter , 1 minion mod going to some how trump 4 minion mods?

Because you care only about that +1 spectre and that's the reason you use the wand, other mods are just a little extra. And you know, the level of those items doesn't really make a difference, bones would be crap at level 70 too, and that's because they have to be crap. A summoner is by its nature a low gear requirement build in most games, that's why they had to 'lock' our slots, so to speak. If they didn't, they would be free for filling with MF gear or whatnot, as summoner is a build that's by far the easiest to multiclass.

Now, without touching on the truly broken stuff in this game as it's not really related to this, it's clear that +1 specter is an extremely powerful mod for a summoner and should come with a price. Using the Lifesprig just means you weren't willing to pay it, some do and some don't, that's actually a good thing.

Max spectre as an affix? I think that's way too strong for a single affix, unless the affix also comes with a downside at the same time (which no other affix does). Or take up two or more affix slots. Or something equally novel.

Max zombies/skeletons as an affix? That would be pretty cool.

Yeah, +1 Spectre would be too much. People will be dual wield it if it is a single handed weapon.

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pneuma a écrit :

Max spectre as an affix? I think that's way too strong for a single affix, unless the affix also comes with a downside at the same time (which no other affix does). Or take up two or more affix slots. Or something equally novel.

Max zombies/skeletons as an affix? That would be pretty cool.

there already is for the chest.


as for the dual wield thing , then you would lose out on necro aegis which is great for crushing inconsequential content and a death sentence for everything else.

and why is everyone convinced that specters are this super uber thing that needs to be destroyed by countless limitations?


by that logic +2 level mods on staves should be banned because srs builds are WAY more powerful than specters.

i think this stigma against specters is entirely misguided , traditional summoners are not even close to being the most powerful builds in the game

and the really good ones are low life , and we all know what a fine foundation of balance low life is.


as for normal summoners , if you are life based midnight is unusable which leaves a wand slot whos only good mods are mana cast speed and resists

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Saltychipmunk a écrit :

i think this stigma against specters is entirely misguided , traditional summoners are not even close to being the most powerful builds in the game

You're off again, we don't care about SRSers or other builds here. The point is +1 spectre is the most valuable possible mod for a straight summoner, something like +1 power charge for a crit build, and you don't see +1 power charge as a rare mod. Hell, you don't see it at all except on one unique wand with a semi-drawback that people don't use very often and on a staff tailored for attackers.

Are you suggesting Void Battery has a drawback? xD

Anyway, +1 spectre is and should stay a unique only mod. Midnight Bargain's life reservation is pretty much the downside to compensate for it, other mods are as previously said only a bonus.

I mean, this is the reason a pure summoner will consider Bones of Ullr even though the other mods are crap.

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Mannoth a écrit :

Are you suggesting Void Battery has a drawback? xD

In a manner, that's why I said semi-drawback :)

It's not the kind of drawback that Sadima gloves have, they always penalize your cast speed so you can only avoid it by not using cast speed, like trappers do. Battery has a stat penalty which ends up as a net positive when all your charges are up, so it's a false drawback, you will never use it on a build that has only three charges or can't generate any. It's a pretty interesting item, too bad a well rolled spell crit wand or dagger can top it easily.